Et Cetera, Vel Quispiam
[And Stuff, Or Something]
An interview with Kayla, because we care.
Chloe interviews The First Sister Kayla -the mastermind of WSA352- with many questions, concerning various topic of interest to very few people, like the ONA and stuff, or something.
Chloe: What’s your ethnic make up?
Kayla- White/Italian and Mexican.
Chloe: Good genes?
Kayla- Acceptional genes. Nonpeasantile blood. Both my parents ancestral background are noble.
Chloe: How can you tell, beside from hearsay?
Kayla- From the quality of the flesh. From observing your grandparents and cousins. Gauging their level of intelligence, their accomplishments in life… the measure of their worth… the nobility always have it in them to seek their own level, and the peasants most often will end up as employees.
Chloe: Do you have any respect for peasant stock humans?
Kayla- None whatsoever. Doesn’t matter what color their skin is.
Chloe: How do you feel personally about illegal immigration; Mexicans coming into America illegally to be specific?
Kayla- That’s a tough question. I have contradicting feelings, which I am both comfortable with. I think we are all people… regardless of what we look like or where we originally came from. We all want the same basic creature comforts and necessities in life. As parents we would also want our children to have a better opportunity in life then we had, wouldn’t you say? We all have a right to be human. Unfortunately there is more to life than just simply being human. We ourselves have complicated life with the invention of Nation-States. This country [USA] was built on immigration… but, if we are going to play the charades of Nation-Statehood, then there are rules to playing the game right. Obedience to these established rules makes the system… the Nation-State… work for its citizens and their progeny. If we aren’t going to play by the rules and keep the system working, then why have a State at all? Within this context, I do not like Mexicans crossing the boarder into this country illegally. There are so many reasons why besides the financial affects. Althoe the money is a big deal. 11 million nontax paying illegal immigrants in this country siphoning American dollars into Mexico means my grand children will be eating shit when they inherit America. 11 million illegals not complying with common vaccination laws, means we’re wasting out time and money vaccinating our kids because there is an open wound of 11 million thru which any sickness and disease can pass thru. Illegal immigration is a great fix for Capitalistic profiteering. Check out the real estate cycle of California for example and measure it up to large waves of illegal immigration. You’ll notice a connection. Sales of real estate jumps a few years after the illegal wave from Mexico. The banks go into a frenzy and rip these people off with loans they can never pay back… people that aren’t tied down to this country… who can leave at any moment. Then we crack down on illegal immigration and chase them out, and they take their money and relatives with them. This causes a vicious economic chain reaction… which has grown into this bull shit economic crisis we are in.
Chloe: But whose fault is it then? The bank’s fault? Capitalism? Immigrants? The government?
Kayla- It’s Stupidity’s fault. It’s everyone trying to get a quick fix, and not understanding that what they do today, affects what will happen tomorrow. It’s simple cause and effect. Peasants are just inherently stupid like that. You stick a peasant behind the desk of a bank, and he’ll try to get a quick fix for himself. Put one of them in capitalism or communism, and they’ll do the same. The system isn’t the problem. The government isn’t the problem. the political or economic regime isn’t the problem. The issue is that we have stupid peasants running around unchecked. There was a reason why in every Kingdom around the world, for thousands of years these peasants had limited rights. Do you think for all those thousands of years when our ancestors were intelligent enough to engineer weapons of war, profound philosophical systems, and engineer immortal structures like the Giza Pyramids, that our ancestors actually forgot to contemplate on the rights of the peasants, because they were “human too?”
Chloe: You sound like either a Monarchist or Fascist? Care to elaborate?
Kayla- All I know is that I am not a “Democratic-Republican,” meaning I don’t believe a Nation-State based on the rule of the illiterate peasantile mob is beneficial to human progression. The Mob doesn’t progress. It’s against their very nature to work against the comfort of their inertia. Progression has always been either forced or tricked onto the Mob. With war, or with incentives, i.e. Money and Consumerable Goods. I don’t have all the answers, so I can’t really give an honest alternative. Does it really matter? Their always the same money changers, no matter what National-Regime. When I say “illiterate” I mean mental illiteracy, when you can’t read life, nature, the world around you, and the cause and effect law..
Chloe: What do you mean when you say “Their always the same money changers, no matter what National-Regime?”
Kayla- I mean if you look closely at the last 500 years of history, and the changes Europe experienced, you will see magicians at work, working their slight of hand. Take the time when the Catholic Church ruled Europe, and owned it… its money and wealth. If you were a sinister “magian” who wanted that wealth, how would you Disrupt Catholic Europe? You play with a monarch’s ego and give him Protestantism and tell him God made him not only King, but Head of his own Church. Qui Bono? The Bankers… the money changers. When those Kings bought the idea and warred with Catholic Europe, who truly benefited? The money changers did. After a hundred to 2 hundred years past and these Kings became to powerful and wealthy… competition to your sinister Magian wealth… how would you Disrupt a kingdom’s coherency? By playing with the People’s egos. You tell them that God made them free and that they have some divine right to rule themselves. When the People bought the idea and fought with kingdoms for their divine right to democracy, Qui Bono? Who truly profited? The money changers did. This isn’t even a democracy anymore. It’s a Corporate-Banking Hegemony. This economic crisis did one good thing. It lifted the veil for those of us who has an eye to see, to witness that this shit isn’t a democracy, but a gambit run but international corporations and big banks; what are we, but pawns? Have we been anything more during the past 500 years?
Chloe: Do you believe in a Magian New World Order conspiracy?
Kayla- No I don’t. I believe in a global conspiracy of stupidity and private greed. Stupid peasants People being fooled by stupid peasant bankers looking for a quick fix. I’m not dumb. I know enough to understand that a bank is a public corporation, meaning that their stocks and corporate shares are owned by your average citizen. I own some bank stocks myself. On a personal, individual level, I put in my hard earned money into a share of the bank, and I expect my dividend to be paid, because a share of that bank is rightfully mine. Multiply that individualistic expectation by tens of thousands who all want their share of the profit and you have a monster that can’t help but do what it does to make the money it needs to make to satisfy its shareholders. Some of those who own large shares of these banks, which has been passed down to them from ages past, are just very, very good at their business – Disruption for profit. It takes someone with a sinister quality mind to recognize those of like minds, don’t you think?
Chloe: I thought private greed was a good thing to a Satanist?
Kayla- So believes the Profane satanist, who can’t see past his own fucking nose to understand the impact his personal greed has causally. If so, then we all deserve the hell hole we live in… so don’t complain when banks fuck you over because people like me and these Profane satanists want their dividend checks.
Chloe: Then what do you think about the idea of a “one world government?”
Kayla- By the time such an institution has been implemented, and the average peasant welcomes the concept, the earth will be half dead. Don’t you think if these conspirators were smart enough to think about world domination, that they would also be smart enough to work in the factors of global warming, climate change, desertification of Africa, decline of fresh drinking water in the Middle East… which means future mass migrations, competition for resources, racial wars and genocide… not to mention pollution, and over population. It’s like a group of conspirators conspiring to take over the Titanic when we all know its sinking anyways. Why? Go ahead, own this fucked up planet and exploit its people, see if I care. How long will it last? I want out. I want Mars. There will come a time, perhaps 300-500 years from now, when this whole planet will be one planetary concentration camp which will take every living thing in it. If you were intelligent enough to plan world domination, wouldn’t you instead try to leave it instead?
Chloe: But what about some ONA MSS in which these conspiracies are talked about?
Kayla- We’re dealing with the ONA and a man that says and writes things which are directed at a specific audience to accomplish his will. David Myatt is no dummy. Neither is Pat Robertson thoe. They both used this New World Order mythos during the same era, for different reasons. It benefited them both in the end, but does that mean it is factual? This NWO mythos back in the 80′s has a vicious potency to provoke peoples emotions and imagination. You talking about a guy (David Myatt) who knows how to manipulate people… an audience. you have to ask yourself- Who was he directing what he said or wrote to… what was he trying to covertly accomplish or manifest aeonically… and does it truly have any relevance to YOU? You really cannot take what was said and written by Myatt (or any person and culture) out side of its contextual time, conditions, motives, and parties involved. The conditions of the 80′s is very different than today. We cannot truly say that we know Myat’ts real motives and intentions for saying and writing such things. The parties involves… Myatt and his intended audience have changed and moved on. If this mythos still works to induce disruption, then use it. If not, let it go and find a more potent one.
Chloe: Myatt, how do you make sense of him? Is he a Nazi, a Satanist, a Muslim?
Kayla- Can’t he just be David Myatt? Do I change as a living person every time I change my mind? Am I truly a different person when I insight role as someone else? No, I’m still Kayla. It looks confusing from a localized perspective. Lets take a Fijian for example. This Fijian was condition mentally to bind his self identity with the single island he was born into… Fiji. Now he looks and observes an American. This American was born in Japan, works and lives part of his year in New York, has relatives in London, and relaxes for several month in a home in Vegas. From our Fijian’s localized perspective which he was mentally conditioned to see, this American is confusing… is he Japanese, a New Yorker… a Londoner… or a Nevadite (or whatever they are called in Nevada)? Do you suppose our American is confused about what he is? No, to him he is just a person, maybe an American that travels into different places in search for things. The same with Myatt. You are not the label you wear, nor the beliefs you assume; you are a person experiencing these labels and beliefs. We should have all learned this from insight roling. Myatt is just a man on a personal quest for personal enlightenment. He may have stepped into National Socialism to extract some insights he wanted, and when he got it, he moved on. He may have assumed Satanic beliefs for a while to extract what insights he saw value in, and then moved on, to a new system with new insights, adding to his collection, which pushes him forwards on his own personal quest; which really has nothing to do with me or you or anyone. It’s his thing, his life. The questions is- Can we learn from that? Doesn’t Myatt/Long offer us the same methodology he uses? It’s what makes the ONA such a practical and beautiful system of apprehension. It’s not a religion, a box, or closed dogma. It’s a collection of practical methodologies, which when applied in life/nature may be used to extract insight to aid our own personal quest. In the same way that Science is not a religion or dogmatic belief system, but a practical methodology… the Scientific Method… which when applied to life/nature may be used to extract/apprehend insight and understanding to aid in advancement. Just because a scientist who lives by the scientific method is a Nazi or a Muslim, does not mean that his methodology has changed or was given up. They are two very different things. In the same way that an Anthropologist who immerses himself in a tribal culture and “goes native” to extract and apprehend a personal, intimate understanding of the tribe, is still and anthropologist using the methodology of science. You can’t use minimal reduction and simply say Myatt was a Satanist and now he’s a Muslim.
Chloe: Then, besides the ONA, what other institution would you say you gained a lot of insight from?
Kayla- Honestly, Buddhism. I like Zen, Chan, and Theravada Buddhism. As I see it, Buddhism is just a collection of insights the Buddha shared, which he asks each of his disciples to question. Then he offers his disciples a Way, or method which he used personally to come to such insights. In this way, as I explained it just now, it has many qualities in common with science and the ONA. All three… science, the ONA, and Buddhism… offers a different practical method of extracting insights, from the same Great Book of Eternal Wisdom – Nature. It’s a shame that many people not intimately associated with Buddhism like us, don’t understand it… believing to be a religion. I can personally appreciate the aesthetics of the statues and temples because they do stir inside me a sense of awe. That evocation of feeling and imagination is what gives birth to inspiration and insightful revelation. If Myatt/Long can find inspiration and insightful revelation inside a Christian Monastery; can I not find the same in a Pagoda?
Chloe: Who did you vote for during the elections?
Kayla- I voted for Rudy Giuliani of New York; Come sta paisano! I still would too, us Italians stick together. I love what he did with New York. It was broke and he brought it back to life and luster. He saw the problem and he cut the problem out… the sleezy sex industry, and strip clubs. Sorry Sinistar.
Chloe: So, your political inclination?
Kayla- Conservative Republican. I don’t vote any other way. I hate liberals, and democrats. I don’t care what anybody says about G.W.Bush… I personally liked Bush and personally believe he was a great man, and great President. He’s a man of his word… Wyrd. He, NSA, and PNAC set out a strategy, and stuck by it. I’m referring to the National Security New Grand Strategy. People don’t seem to read shit these days. If you study PNAC (Project for a New American Century), and NS-NGS, you’ll know why we went kicking shit around in the middle east. It’s basically about securing a unilateral global American hegemony, before China becomes a serious threat to US global domination. Nobody seems to notice, but ever since the Cold War, we (US) has been slowly and strategically surrounding China, literally. We have our allies Japan, and the Philippines to the east of China… Australia-NZ to the south… now Afghanistan and Iraq to the west of China. Why? The real reason why we went into Afghanistan? Because it’s mountains got a shit load of uranium… more nukes. It’s why Russia tried to take Afghanistan during the 70’s… why we (US) originally sent CIA to train those natives to fight them off. Now its ours. Those Russians didn’t have the shit to extract stuff out of those mountains anyways. The reason why we took Iraq? Oil and pipelines. Without an massive influx of energy, China can’t grow into a megasuperpower. China’s rise from a backwards piece of shit nation to a threatening industrialized nation is literally being done on 80% fucking coal. Coal isn’t going to sustain China’s size and further growth. Like I said, I don’t care what those peasants say about George W. Bush. Sure he spent a Trillion or so trying to secure a future for America, so we won’t be eating shit later; but what has Obama done? He’s only been in office for 100 days and how many Trillions has he given to the same stupid fuck banks and corporations that got us into this mess in the first fucking place?! And what did these banks and corporations do with all that money? Did I see a dividend increase? No, they ass spanked each other with the money. That’s a fucking liberal for you. Rush is always right. You hear me?
Chloe: LOL. This is a stupid question, but do you see any conflict between you being a Satanist of the ONA, and being a Conservative who hates liberal agenda? To those without insight, a Satanist of any stripe would more than favor liberal agenda, if not libertine objectives?
Kayla- I see no conflict. Like I teach our younger Disciples, rejection of mass conformity and upholding sinister heresy in these liberal days doesn’t mean mooing with mass. If every satanist is “anarchist,” libertine, or liberal, and you follow them and become liberal… is that nonconforming, and heretical? If every person in our age group is so liberal and indulgent where they lack any concept of self worth, manners, morals… then wouldn’t being a Conservative be a modern heresy? I’m not asking the profane satanists to do what I do and be Conservative. Don’t, keep doing what you do, and let me be what I want to be in return. Anyways, anarchy is stupid, have you seen the demographics of your typical anarchist protest… fucking pothead 20 year old, it’s a joke. So is the Green Party.
Chloe: Here’s a great question for you then; since you are both gay and conservative: Gay marriage, your thoughts.
Kayla- Gay marriage is like prostitution, is like segregation, is like mix race marriage and prohibition. It’s not a question of whether it is right or wrong, if it should be allowed or outlawed. The question is are the People READY for it? Can you force a people who sees nothing wrong with drinking booze to adopt prohibition? Can you go into the 1930-40 and tell the Public during that time-era-mindset, that black people are people to and force the white people to not live in segregation? Can you force your view points and opinions about anything… the legality of prostitution… on a People/Populous which is not yet willing or does not want to adopt such opinions? Is it Satanic for me to force you or anyone to accept my opinions and worldviews and make you live your life according to what I believe? If it is unsatanic and wrong; then how is it right for a State or Government to force the idea that gay people can, will, and have the right to get married onto millions of people who do not agree with the concept??? Are the People… the Mass… the unthinking Mob mentally and emotionally ready? How do you think the Public is ready for it if gay people are still being murders in hate crimes just for being gay? You cannot force the Mass/People to accept an opinion, ideal, or concept it is not ready and evolved enough to accept. Do I even give a shit about getting married in a Christian church, or having the secular state marry me? No, we can put our own ritual and ceremony together. The answer is NO, I do not agree with gay marriage. I am against it. I know gay people have rights, like black people, women, and prostitutes do. I know they wish they we’re free to just be… like black people once wished and dreamed for the same… but these things can’t be forced on people. The people must be allowed to grow in acceptance of such things on their own time. Protect gay people’s rights to a certain extent, but understand that the majority trumps the minority, and that the majority must be at liberty to emotionally, mentally, and socially come into natural acceptance of the idea of gay marriage, like they grew to accept mixed marriage and the equality of black people. So, we learn from the ONA how this is to be aeonically done. By seeding people’s minds with the idea that gay people are normal people too and deserve to just love each other. You can’t force it on them. It takes time.
Chloe: Magic, or magick. Do you believe in it?
Kayla- If by magick you mean that if I burn black candles, point a sword at a geometric shape and vocalize arbitrary sounds, and this is supposed to do something causally… then no. I don’t believe in magick. I think it is bullshit. If by magic you mean that there is more mystery to existence than what our puny 3 pound brain can apprehend, and that Providence cushions my every step in life, and provides me all that I have ever needed, wanted, asked for, then yes, magic is universal and happens everywhere at all times. Everything about the Cosmos and us inside is magical and mysterious. We don’t truly know where it all came from, what it is all doing here, and where we are going. All we have are feeble conjectures. We don’t know what force holds atoms together, or what things forms ever form in nature and the Cosmos so perfect with accurate precision and regularity. Despite what we think we know about our own body, nothing about it is really understood. It’s not hard to look up at something so simple as the moon, and realize that we really know nothing about what holds it in place. We are surrounded by magic and mystery; we are born from it; we exist in it, and it haunts us all inside… to not know, not be able to see, or understand. It makes us chase after it, seek it, find it. We die in it. It is just a matter of becoming mindful of life before you begin to see “something.” All you have to do is write a log of your waking thoughts hourly for a week, and watch mindfully. You will begin to see that your every waking thought manifests as experience whether you like it or not. If you worry about money, life will give your a situation in which you will worry about money. If your think about nothing but girls and sex, life will manifest situations in which you will encounter them. If you spend your waking hours thinking about making money and becoming rich, the situations will come, one after another, with the right people, in the right places to materialize your thoughts. Anyone in our 352 who has ever done our simple Ordeal of Manifestation will know this intuitively. We write out and think about a desire, then go out and collect 100 business cards from people by directly talking to people and going thru the motions… causal input… we all know that after the 20th card, that there are way to many coincidences, and serendipitous situations for it to all just be “just a coincidence.” These Ordeals of ours, and those ritual forms of magic and chants are only a means… a way to condition the mind to understand that it and the Cosmos are partners in a dance, and that what thoughts we put into motion, we must eventually experience. Once the mind knows that it and Dark Providence are a dynamic-duo of active creation, then these rituals and outer forms are no longer of any importance.
Chloe: God, what is it to you?
Kayla- Everything. If an Absolute is all and absolute, then what does it matter what you call or name it? Allah, Shiva, Satan, God, It… whatever. It is the essence that exists when everything is gone. Can I see it? No… but neither can I see my subconscious mind. Even if I were to cut myself open, that subconscious mind would still be not there… but I know it is there because of what it does – things which I can observe. My heart beating on its own. My guts digesting without and conscious effort. Every trillion of my body’s cells working and operating in an impossible symphonic unison to ME possible, tells me there is a mind beyond my conscious mind that regulates my body, that is far beyond me to understand. If we could just silence our minds, and tune into the Cosmos, live life a little carefree, and call upon Dark Providence to cushion our brief walk here on earth, and just take notice… of what we can observe – the unfathomable mysteries of the universe; the millions of galaxies swirling in the Cosmos; our very existence; and how this Great Something so far beyond our apprehension and understanding takes the time to provide us our every little need and want… it is hard to deny that there is nothing out there. That we are alone and on our own…. that this is all meaningless and accidental. To my own Self, I know I am a Daughter of this Dark Cosmos, embraced in Her Mystery, and Her Dark Providence is closer to me then my own Mind. Agia H Baphomet.
Chloe: Who would you rather sleep with: David Hasselhoff or Chuck Noris?
Kayla- God… Chuck Noris. There’s no way I’m sleeping or making out with Hasselhoff. He needs to make like David Myatt and leave! At least Chuck was a cowboy park ranger, or something in that TV show… Texas Park Ranger. I have a thing for shiny badges and denim jeans.
Chloe: Who would you rather sleep with: David Hasselhoff or a Joe Liberman – that Liberal.
Kayla- That doesn’t work Chloe because just because I sleep with a liberal, doesn’t mean I support his agenda. So I would have to go with Joe Liberman.
Chloe: Who would you rather sleep with David Hasselhoff, or that Tammy Fey lady from TBN?
Kayla- Tammy, she looks like she’s crazy in bed… she looks crazy period.
Chloe: Ok, who would you sleep with: David Hasselhoff or Janet Reno; I think she’s even a republican?
Kayla- No! Dammit! Hasselhoff… but I’m not gunna like it one bit.
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